4 Sparks in Stock
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So after Sales Tax there are Over $1,000 in Fees?
I paid List Price-Sales Tax- Registered myself for $7.50?Saved Well over $1,000!!
If everyone in FL charges these fee,s (And I Lived There) I would have got a 98-2000 Used XP-L and put a premium SBT engine in it for about $6,000 and still saved over $1,000 ?
I paid List Price-Sales Tax- Registered myself for $7.50?Saved Well over $1,000!!
If everyone in FL charges these fee,s (And I Lived There) I would have got a 98-2000 Used XP-L and put a premium SBT engine in it for about $6,000 and still saved over $1,000 ?
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seems beyond TTL theres a high "pack" of freight/assembly/doc fees on those prices?? $1300~ upward..hmmm a Breakdown?
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In each case with the FL 6% sales tax they are a little over $1,000 in fees on each scenario! This is NOT what Sea Doo meant to do with this Spark Model and I really hope they read some of these Forums?
Which is still absurd, and i'm sure seadoo will like control this when they find out.
I paid MSRP + $125 setup fee for each of my Sparks.
Another dealer was trying to charge me MSRP + $550, I just called around and asked dealers if they had any in stock, what the OTD price was and first call I found my dealer.
My local dealer had already sold all 40 of his units, this was in April. I happily drove 2 hours to pick up my two sparks.
2x 2ups 60 Hp with Trition trailer, 11,750 OTD , Paid taxes and reg on my own since I was taking to another state
I paid MSRP + $125 setup fee for each of my Sparks.
Another dealer was trying to charge me MSRP + $550, I just called around and asked dealers if they had any in stock, what the OTD price was and first call I found my dealer.
My local dealer had already sold all 40 of his units, this was in April. I happily drove 2 hours to pick up my two sparks.
2x 2ups 60 Hp with Trition trailer, 11,750 OTD , Paid taxes and reg on my own since I was taking to another state
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This is normal in Florida, The dealers all charge the freight and prep. Otherwise they lose money and end up going broke or losing their franchise, and tons of them have !
The reason he still has them is that other Dealers were not so high on their "setup" fees. Either people will pay or he will eventually have to lower those fees and they will sell.
Hopefully before the new 2015's are unveiled in November !!
The reason he still has them is that other Dealers were not so high on their "setup" fees. Either people will pay or he will eventually have to lower those fees and they will sell.
Hopefully before the new 2015's are unveiled in November !!
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I don't think BRP cares about dealer fees. Nor do I think they care if dealers sell over MSRP $4999. Its suggested. Manuf Suggested retail price. It sucks though that we get passed the SHIPPING cost.
Those 4 Sparks should be gone by now yes?
Those 4 Sparks should be gone by now yes?
Interesting, I wasn't referring to the "setup" fees. I didn't realize they were variable.
Shipping should be included in the pricing, but that is just marketing.
Its really the "Dealer Fees" that piss me off. Naive buyers will miss it, and they count on it.
Shipping should be included in the pricing, but that is just marketing.
Its really the "Dealer Fees" that piss me off. Naive buyers will miss it, and they count on it.
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My thought is BRP makes their money. The dealer doesn't make much I think on each sale of the actual product but makes money on the extras like set-up fees, service, accessories, warranties etc. That's why my salesman pushed the fully accessorized Spark at first but when I said I wanted just plain 60s his enthusiasm slacked. Still did the deal. Just exp was very low key, nothing like a car buying experience where it's like boiler room negotiation time.
Having lived in many states the set-up fees vary as much as the labor rates do based on location.
Having lived in many states the set-up fees vary as much as the labor rates do based on location.
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Everybody need to get a taste of the action.
Bump for some in stock toys.
Jeff
Bump for some in stock toys.
Jeff
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$889 vice $1000~ ok not over a "K" in add on fees but, pure profit (greed)) on the dealer's part, it's legal and your right to charge whatever you can get but, nobody said it was "reasonable"...
So since we're having the conversation, how much assembly is required on each machine? Manhours..
What is the freight charge to you from the factory? Dollars purely for shipping per invoice...
What is the markup on each machine if sold at MSRP vice your cost before the above?....What type of gross margin are you shooting for..
Yes, I have run a business and understand there are costs, risks and cash flow /cash finance issues, that's all well and good/understoood...but, maybe you want a customer coming back first to YOU for their next machine? OR parts/servicing? when they think of that "pack" - that's not the most likely scenario for repeat business...
Inquiring minds wanna know
thanks!
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...Since last century I've bought my new cars "online negotiating" and all were at/below the mangfacturers invoice and I got all rebates/program credit.The process consisted of two visits totaling about 90 minutes to deliever a deposit/talk teh order and then delivery/paperwork, nice, neat, fast and both sides felt treated well!
Only dealer fee was $50 for the registration/title paperwork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B2oBzSuD84 This sums it up.
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